SAVAGE The Name Thomas Savage the Carpenter and Ensign Thomas Savage Their relationship with Pocahontas and Powhatan R. Blair Savage |
Ribbed mussels, known as tshecomah, were abundant in the brackish estuarine marshes around Jamestown. It appears that rawrenock (mussel shell beads) were made by Indian women living and working at James Fort. Beads were symbolic items to exchange in a Powhatan marriage ceremony. Is this evidence that the Powhatan formally recognized the unions of English men and Algonquian women? https://historicjamestowne.org/selected-artifacts/mussel-shell-beads/ |
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information posted on the Internet. Before using any information found on-line one should make sure it is documented. In my own searching, of this most valuable medium, I have found scores of postings relating to the lives of Ensign Thomas Savage and Thomas Savage the Carpenter which are highly questionable and many that are just plain wrong. After twenty-four years of searching, I have found no person, or source, on the Internet or anywhere else, who cites an actual record which identifies the parents of Ensign Thomas Savage, or the location in England from where he came. If anyone has such hard evidence I would sincerely appreciate your sharing it with those of us who have spent many years in search of it. |
SAVAGE DNA PROJECT I have had my DNA typed and posted on the Savage DNA project web site. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Savage?iframe=yresults If you are interested in comparing your DNA to mine or would like me to put you in touch with our Project Administrator, my contact information is near the bottom of this page. |
A skirmish with the Indians near Jamestown
Thomas Belson The 1624/25 muster (census) listed a 12 year old boy, identified as Thomas Belson, in the home of Ensign Thomas Savage and his wife, Ann, later called, Hannah. I believe this boy was Thomas Savage the Carpenter. While common thought is that Belson was a surname, I believe that it was a family name and was used to differentiate him from his father. The reported age of 12 is probably incorrect. Anyone who has ever examined old census records knows they were notorious for having gross errors on ages. Young Thomas may have been closer to 9 or 10. Many of these old records were hand copied and re-copied several times and there were many, many, errors. I have a dozen different ages recorded for my great-grandfather, Nelson Savage and that was in the 1800's. There may have been a misunderstanding on the part of the census taker as regards the boy’s name and his age. Perhaps the person giving the information named the boy's mother when answering; "xxxxxxx's son". Perhaps the copyist had difficulty with the name when the muster taker's notes were transferred. Like my own name, it may have been a middle name to differentiate him from his father. It would be like my father, Russell, telling the census taker that I was Russell Blair. It has been reported that before the American Revolution the English rarely used middle names. This opinion is based on what's found in surviving records which, in most cases were formal, or legal documents. There is no reason to believe that families did not have pet names applied to certain children, particularly when they had the same given name as the father. My Grandfather, Milton Jackson Savage appears in records as either, Milton Savage or Jack Savage, but never as, Milton Jackson Savage. Perhaps Ensign Savage preferred his Indian wife to have an English name. Isabel was a common English name at the time and could have been shortened to, Belle. The census taker may have been told by Ann Savage that the boy was Belle's son. The Latin meaning of the name Belle is, beautiful, or fair. There is little doubt that an important Powhatan Chief's daughter, given to Ensign Savage, would have had special qualities. In the Jamestown Muster Rolls of 1624/5 Belson is listed as a servant of Ensign Thomas Savage. It was not unique to this boy to be listed as a servant when he may have actually been the Ensign's son. In the muster of William Gany (wife Anna), their daughter, also named, Anna is listed as a servant and as being born in Virginia. William arrived Virginia in 1616 and Mrs. Gany arrived in 1620, so young Anna would have been no more than five to six years of age; quite young to be a servant! Another instance of this may be in the muster of Captain Samuell Mathews who arrived in 1622. Among his other servants there is listed a Robert Mathews, age 24. Any number of reasons could account for Belson having been listed as a servant. As mentioned above, the old records are rife with errors. Did the census taker mistaken him for a servant because he appeared to be Native American? I have not been able to locate another person with the name, Belson during these early years of the colony. Of the 51 Eastern Shore people appearing in the census of 1624/25, this young boy is the only individual who is not identified by either; “born in Virginia” or by the giving of a date of arrival and the name of the ship on which he arrived. Of those 51 people: Forty-eight are identified by ship and date of arrival. Two are identified as being “born in Virginia”. Only one, the so- called, Thomas Belson, has no date of arrival, ship name, or “born in Virginia” label. To illustrate this I include here an excerpt from the muster listing those residents of the Eastern Shore. This is a copy from page 11 of THE EASTERN SHORE of VIRGINIA 1603-1964 by Nora Miller Turman and appears alphabetically instead of in the original order. I have a complete copy of the actual 1624/25 muster, so I am certain of the accuracy of what I include here: William Andrews, age 25, in the Treasurer, 1617 John Askume, age 22, in the Charles, 1624 John Baker, age 20, in the Ann, 1623 Thomas Belson, age 12 William Bibble, age 22, in the Swan, 1620 James Blackborne, age 20, in the Sampson, 1619 Margaret Hodgskins, born in Virginia |
It is documented that an Ann/Hannah was a wife of Ensign Thomas Savage and that they had at least one child, John Savage, later called Capt. John Savage. I believe that Ann/Hannah was the Ensign's second wife and the step-mother of the so called "Belson" boy. I am convinced this boy was actually Thomas Savage the Carpenter, the son of the Ensign and a native girl who died. But, this is a theory and is yet to be proven. |
SAVAGE IS MY NAME After spending many years tracing my line to Thomas Savage the Carpenter, in 1995 I published a book covering the thirteen generations from he to my grand-children. The book is entitled; SAVAGE IS MY NAME A History of Thirteen Generations of a Savage Family in America Who was the father of Thomas Savage the Carpenter? This question is vigorously explored in my book; Savage Is My Name - Part II A Study of the lives and Relationship of Thomas Savage the Carpenter & Ensign Thomas Savage of Virginia's Eastern Shore 1607 - 1655 |
Robinson T. Savage and many of his descendants are told about in Evelyn Guard Olsen's book, Indian Blood, a brilliant narrative about life in the Blooming Rose area of Garrett County during the 1800's. Stephen Schlosnagle's bicentennial history of Garrett County contains numerous references to our Savage ancestors. The book, Garrett County Graves would be several pages thinner had Robinson not planted his roots where he did. |
Robinson T. Savage was the first school teacher in Western Maryland. He was a friend and neighbor of Meshack Browning. Meshack was a famous pioneer hunter and outdoorsman. His flintlock rifle rests in the Smithsonian. In Meshack's book, Forty- four Years of The Life of A Hunter, a tome about his many exploits, he tells about he and Robinson being together in the War of 1812. They volunteered, were appointed sergeants and marched off to Baltimore. |
| Thomas The Carpenter had at least two sons; Thomas and John. |
A century after he was active on the Eastern Shore, Thomas The Carpenter was referred to, in court records as; Thomas Savage The Elder. |
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This web site went on-line in July of 2005. I will continue to add any information that I may find on Thomas Savage the Carpenter and Ensign Thomas Savage. As I hear from new "Cuzzins" I also add to the several thousand names on the Robinson T. Savage web site. |
| Thomas Savage the Carpenter had many craftsmen and laborers working his shops and plantation. Some of them were slaves, some were indentured servants and undoubtedly some were freemen. |
1. Make available information on the continuing effort to prove the relationship of Thomas Savage the Carpenter, who first appears in Colonial Virginia records in 1632, and Ensign Thomas Savage who arrived in 1607/08 with the "First Supply" to Jamestown - and to determine their family histories. 2. Provide assistance to those who believe they may be descended from these two adventurers. |
A colonial cooper needed skills, intelligence, and strength. They made casks and containers of many specific sizes which included the barrel, firkin, kilderkin, hogshead, butt, tierce, puncheon, rundlet and pipe. They also made pails, churns, tubs, and dippers. These were made of cedar and pine, and were used to hold goods like flour, tobacco, and water. Coopers used broad axes, planes, drawknives, and other tools to make these items. A carpenter was perhaps the most useful colonial tradesman. The carpenter used many different tools, including the saw, broad axe, hammer, awl, mallet, plane, scribe, drawknife, gimlet, and froe. Carpenters built with, oak, locust, tulip, poplar, yellow pine, cypress and juniper. |
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A great, great, grand-son of Thomas Savage was Robinson T. Savage |
Court documents tell us Thomas Savage the Carpenter built houses and boats. It's reported that a Shallop was typical of the kind of boats built by his crew. |
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| Jamestown Plaque dedicated to Ensign Thomas Savage |
| THOMAS SAVAGE GENTLEMAN AND ENSIGN THE FIRST WHITE SETTLEMENT ON THE EASTERN SHORE OF VIRGINIA HOSTAGE TO POWHATAN 1508, HIS LOYALTY AND FEARLESSNESS ENDEARED HIM TO THE GREAT KING WHO TREATED HIM AS HIS SON WHILE HE RENDERED INVALUABLE AID TO THE COLONY AS INTERPRETER. GREATLY LOVED BY DEBEDEAVON, THE LAUGHING KING OF THE ACCAWMACKES. HE WAS GIVEN A TRACT OF 9000 ACRES OF LAND KNOWN AS SAVAGE'S NECK. HE OBTAINED FOOD FOR THE STARVING COLONY AT JAMESTOWN THROUGH HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH THE KINDLY EASTERN SHORE INDIANS. A RELATION OF HIS VOYAGES ON THE GREAT BAY IN SEARCH OF THE TRADE FOR THE ENGLISH WAS READ BEFORE THE LONDON COMPANY AT A COURT HELD JULY 19TH 1621. JOHN PORY, SECRETARY OF THE COLONY SAYS, "HE WITH MUCH HONESTIE AND GOOD SUCCESSES, SERVED THE PUBLIQUE WITHOUT ANY PUBLIQUE RECOMPENSE, YET HAD AN ARROW SHOT THROUGH HIS BODY IN THEIR SERVICE. |
17th-century European engraving depicts Powhatan receiving Ralph Hamor, secretary of the Virginia colony and interpreter Thomas Savage in 1614 at the chief’s new capital of Matchcot on the Pamunkey River. Hamor relates: I had Thomas Salvage with me, for my interpreter; with him and two Salvages, for guides; I went from the Bermuda in the morning, and came to Matchot the next night, where the King (Powhatan) lay upon the River of Pamaunke; his entertainment was strange to me, the boy (Thomas Savage) he knew well and told him; My child, I gave you leave, being my boy, to goe see your friends, and these foure yeares I have not seene you, nor heard of my owne man Namontack. |
| Ensign Thomas Savage was an"adopted son" to Powhatan and "brother" to Pocahontas and lived in everyday association with them for three years. |
Theodore De Bry wood cut of Colonial
artist John White's first-hand, water
color depiction of the Virginia/North
Carolina Indian.
artist John White's first-hand, water
color depiction of the Virginia/North
Carolina Indian.
| This European painting of the wedding of Pocohantas and John Rolfe is said to include Ensign Thomas Savage |
The following law seems to imply that consensual sex with an Indian was allowed: maid or
The Library of Congress: For The Colony in Virginea BRITANNIA. Lavves Diuine, Morall and Martiall .. Printed at London for Walter Burre. 1612. |
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| Here are some links to genealogy on Virginia's Eastern Shore. |
Ensign Thomas Savage In 1607, thirteen years before the Mayflower landed, an ex-privateer who had lost a hand by a Spanish sword, commanded a fleet of three English ships crossing the Atlantic. Their destination; Virginia. Their aim; to create a settlement on a river above the mighty Chesapeake. Against all odds, that settlement called, Jamestown, survived and was the beginning of what would become the United States of America. The ex-privateer was Captain Christopher Newport and he had on board a boy by the name of Thomas Savage. Newport gave the boy, as a hostage, to the great Chief Powhatan in exchange for an Indian named Namontack. Newport's purpose was two-fold, to help insure friendship with the powerful Powhatan and to have Savage learn his language. John Smith, present at the exchange, tells us Savage was thirteen years of age. Thomas Savage remained with Powhatan for three years and was an interpreter for the English Colony for the remainder of his life. He became known as, Ensign Thomas Savage. Had it not been for the influence that Savage had with the Indians, and the generous heart of Pocahontas, the Jamestown Colony would probably not have survived. In 1619 Ensign Savage settled in Accomack as the first white settler on the Eastern Shore. The Ensign is said to have given us the oldest continuing family name in America. |
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Interpreters Take Native Wives Henry Spelman and Robert Poole were two Englishmen who were also hostaged to the Powhatan Indians and later became interpreters the same as Ensign Thomas Savage. They were contemporaries of the Ensign and the three knew each other well. According to the source cited below, He (Spelman) was survived by his Patawomeck spouse "Martha Fox," a child named Clement Spelman, his father Sir Henry Spelman, his brothers Thomas Spelman of Kecoughtan, Virginia, John Spelman, and Francis Spelman of Truro, Cornwall, England. From The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Virginia Historical Society, Contributor Philip Alexander Bruce, William Glover Stanard, Published 1893, Virginia Historical Society p. 17 Spelman went back to England in 1613, and made several other trips, but returned to Virginia each time to continue to serve as an interpreter, and eventually rising to the rank of Captain. During this time he married a Patawomeck Indian woman who is believed to have been given the English name "Martha Fox." (According to traditions passed on to Henry Spellman's descendents, - his native wife was a sister of Pocahontas, and daughter of Powhatan.) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Robert Poole's spouse was unknown, but the wife of his son, William John Poole, was an unnamed American Indian woman. Rev. Stephen E. Harris, The Surry County, Virginia, Historical Society and Museums. In John Rolfe’s 1619 letter to Edwin Sandys he makes references that imply that Robert Poole lived among the Indians. He even stated; “Poole being even turned heathen.” It's therefore obvious to me that Poole would have had an Indian bed-mate. In the Proceedings of the Virginia Assembly at James City July 30 – August 4, 1619, after Henry Spelman is read his sentence, an Assembly member stated; "This sentence being read to Spelman he, as one that had in him more of the Savage than of the Christian" As explained at length in my book, SAVAGE IS MY NAME - PART II, it was routinely common for traders and other white men important to the American and Canadian Indians to be given young native girls as wives, or bed-mates. The Ensign was a trader - and interpreters were certainly important to the Indians. If Spelman, Poole and Poole's son took Indian wives, it certainly would have made good business sense for the Ensign to do the same. |
My book, SAVAGE IS MY NAME - PART II, contains
it was, in fact, common for them to do so. As I find new evidence, I will report it here. New additions to this site will be temporarily in blue print to indicate a new entry. Owners of SAVAGE IS MY NAME - PART II, may copy, print and insert any part of this site in your copy of the book. |
Chief Powhatan
A quote from the pen of J.C. Wise: "These old carpenters and ship-builders seem to have been constantly occupied and prosperous". |
In honor of Russell Milton Savage 1901-1986
SAVAGE ANCESTRY
Dedicated to Thomas Savage "The Carpenter" and Ensign Thomas Savage of Virginia's Eastern Shore during the first successful English colonization of America; Jamestown The search for their antecedents and their descendants Covering the period from 1607 to 1655 |
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The 1990 Census records 49,740 individuals in the United States with the surname of, Savage. The name ranks number 582 with Smith being number 1 at 2,501,922. 2000 Census Total - 48367 Rank - 640 77.24% White 18.59% Black 1.46% Hispanic Balance - Other |
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| John Smith knew Ensign Thomas Savage quite well. |
The line from Thomas Savage the Carpenter to me: 01. Thomas Savage1 ? - 1654-55 02. Thomas Savage2 1646 - 1721 03. Robinson Savage1 1699 - 1774 04. Robinson Savage2 ? - 1786 05. Robinson T. Savage abt 1774 - 1830's (See link) 06. Evan Savage 1797 - after 1849 07. Robert Savage 1819 - 1895 08. Nelson E. Savage abt 1838 - 1916 09. Milton Jackson Savage 1880 - 1960 10. Russell Milton Savage 1901 - 1986 11. Russell Blair Savage 1934 – (That's me!) |
grand-father. Born on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, Robinson was relocated with his family to Sussex County, Delaware in 1779 when just a small boy. Between 1787 and 1793 his father died and left Robinson his 250 acre plantation, which the young man sold and traveled to beautiful Western Maryland where he settled for life. |
CAUTION !! The book; WE ARE THE SAVAGES by Jacob Cochran Savage is probably flawed.
compare my DNA with such a gentleman. There are living male descendants of Jacob C. Savage, but I regret to suggest that J. C. Savage himself did not have a direct line of descent from Ensign Thomas Savage. Several years ago when I read this book it appeared to me to not be adequately proven, so I went out to the Eastern Shore of Virginia and met with three very qualified genealogists, one of which has been consulted by the Smithsonian. I left a copy of J.C. Savages book with Dr. Miles Barnes, Head Librarian at the Accomack County Library. Dr. Barnes copied the book and it was studied closely by the folks I reference above. They all agree there is no proof of the connection, cited in the book, between the John Savage of Northampton County and the John Savage of Augusta County. There appears to be proof that the John Savage of Northampton stayed and died on the Eastern Shore. That breaks the blood line for Jacob Cochran Savage. It is more likely that the John Savage who died in 1784 and married Delitha Ward was from Thomas the Carpenter's line. Following are excerpts from correspondence between myself and the genealogists mentioned above; “As I have related to you, Mrs. [Nora] Turman, you and I (independent of each other) agree on the descendants of John Savage d. 1749 and we both disagree with the work of Jacob C. Savage at the level where a John Savage appears in Augusta Co. Blair had told us that documentation was lacking in that work and it certainly is at that step. If we are correct then the Jacob Savage line to Ensign Thomas Savage is flawed and I feel in a small way this even lends support to the theory of the Thomas Savage lines converging.” “I see no proof in the book that this John Savage was from Northampton County. Seems like if that had been the case, Mr. Dorman would have found that.” “I do think, at this point, that the John Savage who died in 1784 and married Delitha Ward was from the Occahonnock Savages (Thomas the Carpenter's line).” BOTTOM LINE; IF MY THEORY THAT THOMAS SAVAGE THE CARPENTER WAS THE SON OF ENSIGN THOMAS, THEN J. C. SAVAGE WOULD, IN FACT, BE A DESCENDANT OF THE ENSIGN. Anyone interested in this issue may reach me at the email address shown below and I would be happy to forward all the communications from which these excerpts are taken. R.B. Savage |
Words of Chief Robert P, Green of the Patawomeck Tribe of Stafford, Virginia. April 20, 2004 interview with the Stafford Historical Society. "We have a lot of interpreters I think that married into our tribe. A lot of the interpreter's surnames show up in our family names, like the name Cox. The families that were in Virginia before 1700 tended to inter-marry a lot. There weren't a lot of English women around. And who did the English kill? The Indian men, not the women. So there were a lot of Indian women and few Indian men for them to marry. So, it made sense that these interpreters married these Indian women since they spent most of their time with the Indian tribes anyway. So, when you talk about blood quantum, I have no idea what my blood quantum is. When somebody tells me they're pure Indian, I doubt that there are any pure Indians in this part of the country. The Spanish went into the southwest, and then the settlers. The trappers in the north either raped the Indian women or married into those tribes. To me, blood quantum doesn't really matter. Its like an older Elder that Mitchell Bush once introduced me to said, "I know white men that are more Indian than some Indians I know. It's what's in your heart and not necessarily what's in your blood that matters. Your heart tells you whether you are an Indian or not. Do you love and respect Mother Earth?"" |
It's been claimed that Savage is the oldest continuing name in America. Can anyone prove otherwise? Is there anyone living who is descended from a person who arrived before Ensign Thomas Savage in 1607/08? Is there a living male who has proven his Savage line to the Ensign? We have yet to find one who will agree to have his DNA tested! |
Sir Thomas Dale says to Rolfe and Pocahontas: "Since we English and the red beauties will get to marrying, there need be no more war, but blessed peace. Know you what is writ in this letter, my Lady Princess? I see thou dost, by thy roses. Master Rolfe would marry thee - hath doubtless read thee this billetd |
| Captain John Martin credits Ensign Thomas Savage with saving the colony through his relationships with the Accomack Indians on the Eastern Shore.
ffirst I haue not onely reaped the benefitt, but all the whole Collonye since; whoe had perished had it not bene discouered before Sr George Yardley came in by my Aunchient Thomas Savage & servants, besides necessities hath made those Savages more industrious then any other Indians in or Baye] By Captain John Martin: |
A Shallop
colonial shallop. Shallops of the time were described as; "of twenty-six feet by the keel with masts, oars and yards". "of four tons". "a sloop rigged craft of about twelve tons". (Capt. John Smith's shallop with which he explored the bay area) "Tons" refers to the weight of water displaced by the craft, not the weight of the craft itself. |
Much information on our Savages may be found on the expansive genealogy work of M. K. Miles on the Miles Files. |
The Governor wants an Indian bride!
accompanying Ralph Hamor to meet Powhatan on a mission for the governor, Thomas Dale, in which another daughter of Powhatan was being sought as a bride for Dale. This mission was unsuccessful as Powhatan refused to give up another daughter. |
An Indian Song The Indians had their love songs, which they sang with some idea of tune, and they had also their angry and scornful songs against the Tassantassees, as they called the English, one of which is given by Strachey. It celebrates an attack upon the English at the Falls of the James River in 1610, when Lord Delaware sent an expedition from Jamestown to search the country above the Falls for gold mines. In this attack Lord Delaware's nephew, Captain William West, was killed and Simon Skore, a sailor, and one Cobb, a boy, were taken prisoners. The song was as follows: (In this song, Thomas Savage is called Thomas Newport. When Captain Christopher Newport gave Savage to Powhatan he told him that the boy was his (Newport's) son.) Matanerew shashashewaw erawango pechecoma Whe Tassantassa inoshashaw yehockan pocosack. Whe whe yah haha nehe wittowa wittowa. Matanerew shashashewaw erawango pechecoma Capt. Newport inoshashaw neir inhoc natian matassan. Whe whe yah haha nehe wittowa wittowa. Matanerew shashashewaw erawango pechecoma Thom Newport inoshashaw neir inhoc natian monacock. Whe whe yali haha nehe wittowa wittowa. Matanerew shashashewaw erawango pechecoma Pochin Simon inoshashaw ningon natian monacock. Whe whe yah haha nehe wittowa wittowa. The words of the song boasted that the Indians had killed the English in spite of their guns (pocosack) and copper (matassun), meaning the copper crown which Captain New- port had presented to Powhatan (hoping thereby to secure his friendship); that Thomas Newport (that is, Thomas Savage, whom Captain Newport had given to Powhatan, calling him his son) had not frightened them with his sword (monacock) ; and neither had Simon Skore's weapon saved him from capture. The zvhe whe of the chorus made mock lamentation over the death of Simon Skore, whom they tortured ; and the words yah Jiaha ncJie zvittozva zvittoiua conveyed a jeering, laughing commentary upon the English lack of fortitude under torment. William Strachey. Travaile into Virginia, 79, 80. |
evidence of the value of intermarriage: "for it is the onely course that uniting minds, free from jealousies, can first make strangers confide in a new friendship, which by communicating their bloud with mutuall assurance is left hereditary to their posteritie." An Encouragement to Colonies. Sir William Alexander, Earl of Stirling, London, 1624. Until at least 1618, and possibly until as late as the Indian strike on English settlements in 1622, Powhatan and his successor, brother Opechancanough, still held out some hope of dealing with the English intruders through intermarriage and diplomacy. Women in Early Jamestown - Kathleen M. Brown, Associate Professor of History, University of Pennsylvania Another source indicating that Henry Spelman had a Native American wife: 1 Henry Spilman b: 1595 Norfolk, Eng d: 1623 in of Jamestown Colony, VA, USA (killed by Indians) .... +Mary (Native American Patawomeck) Fox b USA ....... 2 Clement Spilman b: Abt. 1620 d: 1677 in Westmoreland Co, VA ............. +Martha Mason b: Abt. 1619 in VA d: Abt. 1680 in Westmoreland Co, VA m: 1640 in VA ................. 3 James Spelman b: abt 1653 Westmoreland Co,VA d: Abt. 1715Westmoreland Co,VA ....................... +Mary Unknown b: c 1657 Westmoreland Co,VA d: ~1717Westmoreland Co, VA m: Abt. 1677 Westmoreland Co,VA .......................... 4 Thomas Spelman b: 1680 Washington, Westmoreland Co. Va. d: Abt. 1740 Washington Parish, VA ................................ +Ann Unknown -------------------------------- Etc., etc....................... SPILMAN FAMILY ABROAD - Descendants of Henry SPILMAN - Editor: Lori (Spilman) Dollevoet - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spilman/Index.htm Posted on several genealogy web sites are various family trees where the authors claim to be descended from Matachanna, daughter of Wahunsanawcock and sister of Pocahontas. Matachanna was also known as, Cleopatra, a name given to her by the English. The following record is typical of those so posted. Most all indicate that the daughter of Matachanna had a daughter who married a Scottish trader. I include this here as simply another reference which, if true, indicates that it was not at all uncommon for colonial traders to marry an Algonquin native. The youngest daughter of Chief Powhatan [17 years junior to Pochontas} was given the name Cleopatra by her brother-in-law, John Rolfe, the husband of Pochontas. Cleopatra married Cayugha Chief Opechancanough. They had two children, a son, Cornstalk, and a daughter, Princess Nicketti: "Beautiful Flower" or "She Sweeps The Dew From The Flowers." Nicketti married a Scottish trader named Hughes, and had a daughter, Abadiah Elizabeth Hughes. Dec. 17th, 1641 -- Thomas Rolfe petitions the governor to let him see Opechankeno to whom he is allied, and Cleopatra, his mother's sister." From the Powhatan Museum web site: One could interpret this marriage as the beginning of the whitening process of the indigenous people of Virginia, which continues unabated today. Technically, Pocahontas was not the first Virginia Indian to engage in miscegenation with whites. There had been a number of non- recognized liaisons between the English and Virginia Indians since 1607. Excerpt from a 2002 undergraduate thesis by Kiros Anthony Boston Auld. (Auld is a Pamunkey, Tauxenent and Taino descendant.) Intermarriage had been indeed the Method proposed very often by the Indians in the Beginning, urging it frequently as a certain Rule, that the English were not their Friends, if they refused it. The History and Present State of Virginia by Robert Beverly By 1609, Powhatan realized that the English intended to stay. Moreover, he was disappointed that the English did not return his hospitality nor would they marry Indian women (an affront from the Native perspective). The Library of Congress, Colonial Settlement, 1600's - 1763, Virginia's Early Relations with Native Americans So here is another source that supports my believe that the Powhatan Chiefdom would offer a daughter in marriage to an influential colonial interpreter, diplomat and trader. The English may have been reluctant to intermarry in 1609, but certainly by the time Ensign Thomas Savage was of marrying age and was actively trying to develop good trading relations with the Powhatan, and maintain the peace for both the welfare of the colony and his own trading business, he would have been utterly foolish to not accept a daughter of an important Chief. And of those offering daughters, which father would be Savage's wisest choice? Probably Wahunsanawcock himself. In 1614 Savage, having left Wahunsanawcock's home four years earlier to return to Jamestown, re-established his warm relationship with the great Powhatan "King". What better way to gain an edge as both trader and diplomat than to marry a Powhatan Princess. I call Savage a Diplomat. Was he? "When Capt. John Martin visited the Eastern Shore in April 1610, he found Thomas Savage already a power among the red men" and "Savage became well established in the Indian councils." Just a couple of many recorded examples of Savage's importance in the development of good relations between the Powhatan and the Colonists. So, I feel comfortable in calling him a Diplomat. Was Ensign Thomas Savage offered daughters of important Powhatan Chiefs, as wives or bed-mates? I find it very difficult to believe otherwise. One might ask; but did he accept? Of course he would have, if not by marriage then certainly as a bed-mate. Would he have fathered a child by one of these women. My opinion is that it probably happened more than once. Again, this is my theory based on the evidence, but it is not yet proven by an actual document from the period.! |
| Anas Todkill, recorder of John Smith's adventures, is portrayed by Willie Balderson, Colonial Williamsburg's manager of public history development. |
you must visit the web site of Bill and Laurel Savage. Their farm is on the Eastern Shore of Virginia near where Ensign Thomas Savage and Thomas Savage the Carpenter were raising Indian corn near 400 years ago. Bill and I are "Cuzzins" and both descended from the Carpenter and related to the Ensign. |
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Thomas Savage, "The Carpenter" A prominent figure in Northampton and Accomack Counties on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, he first appears, by name, in surviving records, in 1632 He is known to have been a builder of watercraft and homes and operated a cooperage to manufacture casks, barrels, kegs, buckets etc. At his death, he owned at least two properties totaling 750 acres. It is documented that Ensign Savage and Savage the Carpenter were closely related. Were they father and son? |
| Pocohontas The only known painting made during her lifetime. It hangs in the National Portrait Gallery of the Smithsonian, in Washington, D.C. |
Posted on geni.com is a reference to one Raleigh Croshaw, born 1584 in Croshaw, Lancashire, England, died in Elizabeth County, Virginia April 10, 1667. Croshaw is reported to have had an Indian wife, Rachel, "sister of Powhatan"; and in another place, "sister of Pocahontas". No documentation though, so consider it speculation until a source is cited. http://www.geni.com/people/Capt-Raleigh- Croshaw-Ancient-Planter |
Letter from the Marquess of Flores to Philip III, King of Spain. 8-1-1612 --- reported by a source that "some of the people who have gone there, think now some of them should marry the women of the savages of that country; and he tells me that there are already 40 or 50 thus married." Also reported that the other Englishmen, after being put among them, have become savages themselves while the women, whom they took out, also have gone among the savages where they have been received & treated well. A minister who admonished them was "seriously wounded in many places" because "he reprehended them." The Genesis of The United States, Vol. II, pages 572 & 632, by Alexander Brown in 1890. Reproduction 2018 by WWW.ForgottenBooks.com. |
Powhatan had died in 1618; his brother, Opechancanough, had effectively inherited the leadership of Tsenacomoco. Though Opechancanough had been outwardly receptive to talk of peace with the English and converting his people to Christianity, he was planning an attack that would devastate the English colony and, he hoped, send them away permanently. One version of his plan had involved poisoning the English using large quantities of a deadly plant native to the Eastern Shore, which he needed to obtain from Esmy Shichans; in addition to refusing to send the plant, the Indian leader alerted his friend Savage to Opechancanough's true intentions. Savage tried to warn English authorities, including Jamestown's new governor, Sir Francis Wyatt, but his message fell on deaf ears. Wyatt had taken Opechancanough's promises of peace at face value, writing to the Virginia Company of London that the English enjoyed "very great amytie and confidence w[i]th the natives." On March 22, 1622, Opechancanough led a swift and terrible assault on outlying plantations that killed as many as 347 colonists, or about one-fourth of the English population in Virginia. Encyclopedia Virginia: A project of the Virginia Foundation for the Humanities in partnership with the Library of Virginia |
| Indian massacre of 1622, depicted as a woodcut by Matthaeus Merian, 1628 |
Hannah (Ann) Savage; wife of Ensign Thomas Savage Hannah has for years been mistakenly identified as Hannah Tyng of Boston. This error has been repeated over and over. Moody K. Miles, a trusted genealogist who I know personally, and who has done important work for, among others, the Smithsonian, tells us that Hannah's surname was Elkington. She was listed as, Ann in the Muster of February 1624/25 at Eastern Shore, Virginia in the home of Ensign Thomas Savage. In later years she is known from court documents as, Hannah. The muster tells us she came to Virginia in 1621 on the Sea Flower. There is record of Hannah being the mother of at least two children; Captain John Savage, son of Ensign Thomas, and Margaret "Margery" Cugley, daughter of Hannah's second husband, Daniel Cugley to whom she was married after the death of Ensign Thomas. In later years, after Hannah's death, Margery was cared for by her half-brother, Captain John Savage. For more information on this subject click on The Miles Files link above. |
An Important DNA Match In 2010 we discovered that a Mr. Savage (given name withheld) who lives on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, within the bounds of the 9000 acre tract that was owned by Ensign Thomas Savage, has a close match to my own Y-DNA profile. Mr. Savage and I both have documented lines to Thomas Savage the Carpenter. The fact that Mr. Savage lives today within the Ensign’s original tract does not necessarily mean that he’s descended from the Ensign; I suspect a number of the Carpenter’s descendants also live within those boundaries. Mr. Savage and I have a genetic distance of, 2 and since we both have documented lines to the Carpenter, this indicates that our documentation is accurate and thereby the line is solidly proven. If Thomas Savage the Carpenter were to be considered Generation #1, then I am Generation #11 and am removed from him by ten generations. This agrees with the Y-DNA standard probability chart illustrated below. Probability that a common ancestor lived no longer ago than this number of generations. Genetic Distance 50% 90% 95% 0 2 4 5 1 3 6 7 2 5 8 9 3 6 10 11 |
By 1691 intermarriage with Indian or Negro by the English had evidently become such a problem that the Virginia Colony banned all such unions: And for prevention of that abominable mixture and spurious issue which hereafter may encrease in this dominion as well by negroes, mulattoes, and Indians intermarrying with English, or other white women, as by their unlawfull accompanying with one another, Be it enacted by the authoritie aforesaid, and it is hereby enacted, That for the time to come, whatsoever English or other white man or woman being free shall intermarry with a negroe, mulatto, or Indian man or woman bond or free shall within three months after such marriage be banished and removed from this dominion forever. An act for suppressing outlying Slaves,” Laws of 1691, act XVI, in Hening’s Statutes at Law In 1705 that law was modified to leave out the reference to Indians. |
Jamestown Colony intermarried with the Native Americans. Thoughtfully considering all the information that I've included here, to me it is clear that marriage, or co-habitation between the English and the people of Powhatan's kingdom was not at all uncommon during the early 1600's. With the interpreters and traders I think it was most necessary, if they were to be successful. |
!!! News Flash !!! Falmouth, Maine 3-25-2015 This just in: Our Grand Daughter, Nola, who is also my Senior Research Analyst (pictured in the photo to the right with her Assistant Research Analyst, Sam) has evidently uncovered some sort of evidence that proves conclusively that Ensign Thomas Savage was married to an Indian girl. Nola's preliminary report is copied here. We believe that Nola may have had some supernatural help with her discovery, as she seems to be communicating with an unknown entity. Also, the two of them appear to be in some sort of ceremonial garb. We anxiously await their full report. It appears that Nola was excited when she submitted her preliminary report, so we include what we believe is an accurate interpretation of her message. |
| I am related to Pocahontas - it is true. |
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marriage of Elizabeth, her Christianized name, to John Bass. She was the king of the Nansemond's daughter. The family still own or still has in its possession the prayer book, which documents this marriage in 1638. Basically, that's where our whole line today descends from, from John Bass." Chief Barry "Big Buck" Bass - Nansemond Tribe May 21, 2004 Indians had to have a pass to travel. They couldn't testify in court against whites. They couldn't inherit property at one time." Oliver "Fish Hawk" Perry Chief Emeritus Nansemond 1987 |
To see a chart of some 4000 descendants of Robinson T. Savage click on the Robinson T. Savage radio button at the top of this page. |
My Library Relating to my Eastern Shore Savage Ancestry Search (Some lengthy titles are abbreviated to fit one line and “The” may be omitted when preceding a title.) (Recent additions in red)
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The only source we have for the age of Ensign Thomas Savage is the writing of John Smith (or Anas Todkill) who wrote; "a boy of thirteen years old, called Thomas Savage, whom he (Newport) gave him as his son". I believe Savage was older than 13. He was too influential with the Powhatans to have been only 15 when, in April of 1610 Captain John Martin found "Thomas Savage already a power among the red men". In 1610 there was an attack upon the English at the Falls of the James River when Lord Delaware sent an expedition from Jamestown to search the country above the Falls for gold mines. In this attack Lord Delaware's nephew, Captain William West, was killed and Simon Skore, a sailor, and one Cobb, a boy, were taken prisoners. As a result of this fight the Indians said in their song that Thomas Savage, “had not frightened them with his monacock (sword)”. Savage was obviously a man to be dealt with to have been wielding a sword and surviving the attack. Fifteen years old? Perhaps older? Smith stated the age of Pocahontas as, "a child of tenne years old" in the spring of 1608. However, in a letter written by him in 1616 he gave her age at that same meeting in 1608 as "a child of twelve or thirteen". |
The competing cultures of the Powhatan and English settlers were united through unions and marriages of members, of which the most well known was that of Pocahontas and John Rolfe. Their son Thomas Rolfe was the ancestor of many Virginians and many of the First Families of Virginia have both English and Virginia Indian ancestry. Wikipedia |
THE BLACKWATER SHAFT This book has nothing to do with Thomas Savage, but I had some empty space here and I told myself; "Why not give my book a plug." I talk to myself a lot. :) |
These books are all available for sale on Amazon. Click on the "My Books" button in the Navigation Bar at the top of this page. |
I have been told, by a source which I trust, that Thomas Savage the Carpenter, because he was half Indian, was required to wear a copper "badge", perhaps like the one to the right which was excavated at Jamestown. Please understand that this is NOT DOCUMENTED, but if it is true, might such a "badge" be similar to the "pass" to which Fish Hawk Perry refers? (RBS) |
Colonial Carpenters at work
In Alexander Brown's THE GENESIS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1605-1616, Brown says of Ensign Thomas Savage, on page 196; He left two sons, Thomas, who was alive in 1652, but seems to have died without issue, and a younger son, John. We know that this Thomas who was alive in 1652 was, in fact, our Thomas Savage the Carpenter who died in 1654/55 and he also had issue including two sons, Thomas and John. --------------------------------------------------- A similar statement appears in THE DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY by the Oxford University Press in London, pages 839-840. By his wife, Anne he had two sons, Thomas and John besides other children who died young. |
| Badge for Pamunkey tribal members. |
"Why should you take by force that from us which you can have by love? Why should you destroy us who have provided you with food? What can you get by war?" Chief Powhatan Wahunsenaca, 1608 (Moquin and Doren 1973:111: |
There's a fellow I know by the name of Scott Savage. We don't yet know if we're related, but we're working on finding out. Scott has hit a temporary dead-end with his ancestor, Robert Savage in Mercer County, PA. Any help in that regard would sure be welcome. After retiring from the US Army, Scott started making knives. They are made completely by hand with great detail given to the fit and finish of each blade. He makes the most beautiful and precision knives you're likely to come across. It wouldn't make me a bit angry if you were to go to Scott's web site and take a look at his work. It's pure and functional art; the kind you'd like to leave to your kids or grand-kids. Just click here >>>> Black Earth Knives |
may be interested in visiting the Maryland State Park at Sang Run, Garrett Co. Maryland. It contains information about our Robinson T. Savage pioneer families. This deeply historical area has a time-line to the mid 1700's with original buildings and election house. Picnic by the river, fish, hike, and enjoy our porch! Discover Garrett County history and farm life at Friends Delight farm. Artisan demonstrations, kids activities, gardens, hayrides, hiking, dutch oven cooking demos, candle dipping. The Park is open daily. Friends Store is closed during winter. Friends Store and Farm, Sang Run State Park 3735 Sang Run Road. (4 miles past WISP resort) 301-387-7067 https://dnr.maryland.gov/publiclands/pages/western/sangrun.aspx |
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One may note in my Time Line link that after Ensign Thomas met with Powhatan in 1614, there is no record of him again until 1617. It's my belief that the 1614 re-acquaintance after four years of no contact between the two, and with Powhatan greeting Thomas so warmly, it was the beginning of the two men renewing their close friendship. During the period between 1614 and 1618 when Powhatan died, the age range of Thomas would have been between roughly, 19 to 23. To me it is very likely that during this time Powhatan would have offered Thomas one of his daughters. |
In February 2020 I received an email from a fellow Savage researcher in England. His name is Hugh Savage and he is a most prolific and trusted genealogist of the Savage family in England. Hugh has written at least 13 volumes on Savage families in England and elsewhere. The research he has done over the years is remarkable. To the right is an example of his work, all of which is available on amazon.com. It's certainly worth checking out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Hugh’s message to me he says this: “I agree absolutely about Thomas the Belson boy, that he could be a son by an Indian lady who might have been given the name Belle or Isabelle or something similar). |
History of the Savage Family The Ancient Savage Family of England and Other Places
Hugh F. J. Savage |
Why was the “Belson” boy treated differently than the
other fifty residents? Why was he the only one who had
no information given as to how or when he arrived in
Virginia? Why is the listing of this boy unique?
other fifty residents? Why was he the only one who had
no information given as to how or when he arrived in
Virginia? Why is the listing of this boy unique?
On March 31, 2021, the Yahoo - Aabaco Company, publisher of the software used to build this site, will no longer support this software. This will prevent my ability to make changes or additions. This site will continue on-line because I am the domain Owner, Registrant contact and Administrative contact. However, in form it will remain static. It was in July of 2005 that I put the site on line and for these many years have kept it up to date with new finds. I am now 86 years old and it is my hope that a member of my family will rebuild SAVAGE ANCESTRY with new software and continue to, as I have, provide help to those interested in finding their Savage roots. Before the March 31 deadline I plan to erase some family names on the "About Us" page for privacy reasons. I will let the new maintainer decide whether to replace it. I have been chasing down these Savages for many years and it's time to pass the chase to a younger Savage explorer. Before the deadline I hope to have a new book finished and available on Amazon. It will be roughly 330 pages and be an expansion of this page plus material too broad to fit here. And, perhaps portions of it may be a bit too controversial to put on-line. R. Blair Savage 1-30-21. |
